"Enormous Waste and Loss": What it's Like to Report On the Death Penalty

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First [1:24], Montgomery Advertiser reporter Brian Lyman (@lyman_brian) joins to discuss covering the criminal justice system in Alabama — including being present at the most recent execution conducted in the state. Also, what can the Alabama senate race tell us about the country at large? Second [40:50], #friendofthepod Jamil Smith (@jamilsmith) talks about the moment his life intersected with the question of capital punishment…. and stays for an extended chat about what the future of criminal justice looks like at this moment in American history.