"Scale of Awfulness with Adam Serwer and Lizzie O'Leary"


Adam Serwer (@AdamSerwer), senior editor at The Atlantic, joins Ana this week to discuss his latest piece unpacking the white nationalism of Trump voters. He argues a lot more people believe in white supremacy in America than we want to talk about, but says having that conversation is unavoidable. The discussion also draws parallels between white supremacy and patriarchy.

Then, Lizzy O’Leary (@lizzieohreally) of Marketplace talks sexual harassment and bad behaviour — that “grey area” — in the media, including her own encounters with men she shrugged off as a young reporter, but now horrify her. She wrote about those experiences here.

A link to Adam’s piece, The Nationalist’s Delusion, is here

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